Yeah, it was like a meat market at times!
But I'm just wondering how the WTS sell the idea of spending money and taking holidays from work/school to the jws without any scriptures to quote to back the notion up.
....district conventions?.
i know that the jews went to jerusalem and had a couple of celebrations where they gathered in large numbers during the year but did the early christians do anything like that?
i'm a bit confused as to what the precedent for district conventions or assemblies are.. thanks for any info,.
Yeah, it was like a meat market at times!
But I'm just wondering how the WTS sell the idea of spending money and taking holidays from work/school to the jws without any scriptures to quote to back the notion up.
friday am during keynote address "the wonders of creation reveal god's glory" 32 minute dvd on creation available at the convention.
friday last talk "sing to jehovah" - new songbook with 135 songs, 42 which are new.
will start using in january 2010. cong will begin receiving them after september 1st.
Hi dust,
What's the password? I can't get in to see the images properly.
PM if you prefer.
friday am during keynote address "the wonders of creation reveal god's glory" 32 minute dvd on creation available at the convention.
friday last talk "sing to jehovah" - new songbook with 135 songs, 42 which are new.
will start using in january 2010. cong will begin receiving them after september 1st.
Where's the other thread on this subject?
Anyone uploaded the creation cd yet? I can't wait to see what they've put in to that!
....district conventions?.
i know that the jews went to jerusalem and had a couple of celebrations where they gathered in large numbers during the year but did the early christians do anything like that?
i'm a bit confused as to what the precedent for district conventions or assemblies are.. thanks for any info,.
....district conventions?
I know that the jews went to jerusalem and had a couple of celebrations where they gathered in large numbers during the year but did the early christians do anything like that? I'm a bit confused as to what the precedent for district conventions or assemblies are.
Thanks for any info,
Am
anybody like to contribute a few suggested questions - should be less that 12 words.. .
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How would you know if the jws were wrong?
Why does your religion have such a highturnover?
end of morning program, dvd video released: "the wonders of creation reveal god's glory".
end of afternoon program, announced upcoming release of a new songbook: "sing to jehovah".
excuse me while i go barf now.. b the x.
Aw shoot!
For years I waited at each convention for the announcement of a new songbook! And now that I'm gone, they get it... grrrr
hi all, i've been reading this site for about a month now and decided it was time to jump in.
it is truly a blessing to have people who know exactly what we are going through.
some background, i'll keep it short:.
Welcome! Looking forward to hearing more of your stories.
From another Tolle fan,
Am
here on jwn, i have noticed the following things we have in common:.
we all thought we were alone with our doubts.
we all sat at meetings feeling something was wrong.
Very helpful. I'm glad its here.
i just noticed this.
deeminz?.
this is for real.
LOL
my wife and i sent my 22 yr.old pioneer witness daughter and her husband a anniversary card and $ 40.00 and flowers the end of april.
my daughter wrote mrs. flipper and me each our own individual letters thanking us initially for the gifts - and then went into detail as to why she has not spoken to me for over a year and shunned me.. keep in mind as i paraphrase some of the highlights to these letters that the only negative thing i have said about the organization to my daughter in 3 years was to show her the ap news release about the child abuse settlements by the wt society .
i'll quote parts of the letter to mrs. flipper first :.
Hi Flipper,
What a sad situation. And yet there is some good in it.
As others have already said, she is having some form of communication with you and I'm sure you're grateful for that! :)
As far I can see there are 2 routes you can take.
1.) Say something like "You're probably never going to leave and I'm probably never going to go back, so let's just get our relationship to the best it can be within those parameters." Or words to that affect. I spoke to a counsellor about saying something like that to my still-in family. He seemed to think it was a good idea. I did say those words to a sibling and it worked very well. Definitely took the sting and her suspicious feelings out of it. And did improve the relationship.
2.) Belief what Steve Hassan says. She will get out of the cult, its only a matter of how soon and how easily. To that end, consider doing what he recommends in the book and prepare an SIA with her. Do all the necessary prep work and then try and spring her. A hard slog but with the best possible outcome as the potential result. Depending on your finances, it may be worth considering contacting Steve himself. His book doesn't really cover the eventuality you and I are in, ie trying to release people from the bonds that were once ours also. So his personal involvement may be the added ooomph you need.
All the best in whatever you decide.
Keep us posted!